I like this page

https://www.google.com/search?q=guided+salvia+trips
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http://home.comcast.net/~sresnick2/hookah.htm


Reading this, anyone would be curious to try it, wouldn't they?

Yet all I've gotten from Salvia in two years is many "insights" or impressions, sometimes profound-seeming at times, and mild hallucinogenic effects, including "swirling" in the field-of-vision. I guess I just kept "chickening out" rather than go deeper, or my 20x bought extract and my ~20x (or 10x?) homemade extract were just too weak to take me past level 3 or 4.

I'll probably go deeper eventually, but I've come to believe that wherever I may be able to "travel" on salvia, it doesn't really matter, because I *chose* to be here, on earth, at this point in time, and I should honor my own choice by not (seemingly) trying to escape from it, even temporarily. It's probably okay to do once-in-a-while, but doesn't seem right to do very frequently. Still, as I've said, I think I could continue to experiment approximately monthly...

red pill

I was thinking again how Salvia seems like the "red pill", this evening, but it has little relevance to anything right now. Except that I need to be honest with myself, and honest with others when I *do* volunteer information, but probably should be careful of what I volunteer. ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_pill_and_blue_pill

Also, it's been two days since my most recent chewed salvia experiment, walking home from Greenlake and getting the strong impression that I could get in trouble if I do that at a higher dose (some cop might stop me and wonder if I'm a danger to the public, take me in for questioning, despite Salvia being legal; one in that state may be perceived as being "scary") ... I'm not sure how accurate that impression was, but it seemed accurate at the time. I realized I could not dare attempt an "intense" chewed-salvia experience in public, even if in public means being among total strangers (walking around Greenlake or back from Greenlake). Perhaps that should be obvious to me after an experience I had near the end of a hike, but the context was different and it didn't seem so obvious at the time.

lay off it?

I'm thinking if I land a new job soon, which I need to do, it's time to lay off the salvia for a while. But since I'm still curious to continue the explorations, I have a compromise; my sessions are to be done on the last Friday-evening of each month. This way I should have plenty of time for preparation, and an entire weekend to get back to "normal". Why would I want so much recovery-time? I'm starting to get concerned about possible lasting effects on memory or attention. I feel like I'm in a mild stupor today, and much of this week, as if I were either severely sleep deprived (though I'm not) or otherwise off-balance. There are many factors, like not bothering to take vitamins lately, and having a rather unbalanced diet. Overall I seem fairly healthy though, so I think the major fact is daily experiments with Salvia this week (none today). So I've come to the conclusion that it may be a very bad thing to do daily, and that I should have an absolute limit of once a week, aiming toward 2 to 4 times per year in the long-term. I think the "fear" that drives me to experiment daily is that once I stop doing it daily I might not want to do it again for a long time. That happens sometimes; I go a couple of weeks without trying any, then I keep asking myself if I want to do it again and keep answering "no way; I hate that stuff!" It's hard work doing salvia, and I feel I only do it right now because I have some hard problems to solve, and once they are solved and I'm back fully-engaged in the "game" of life, there will be no need for regular/frequent use of a kappa-opioid agonist. Sure, it's the "red pill", and opens the door to the "other side" of this holo-fractal "matrix" of reality, but all that doesn't matter right now, because as long as I choose to continue playing this "game" of life (and I do), there are some requirements I need to meet, like making money, and doing salvia *really* isn't helping me do that in any apparent way, and might be impairing slightly. What makes me realize this is partly a lingering dizzyness/lightheadedness, and partly a scatterbrained-ness and tendency to pace around and avoid things I should be doing.

Although, there's been the opposite at times. Sometimes I felt like a smoked extract knocked me out of many of the time-wasting activities I was engaged in and shifted me toward something that might/could theoretically be more useful.

I'm still a little undecided because there is somewhere I'm trying to go with this. I want to reach a point of energy-centeredness from which I operate most of the time. A point I might reach, temporarily, with a good dose of DMT. Or maybe there's some sort of meditation or "fractal energetic yoga" (per Martin W. Ball) that can get me in that state. But Martin says the symmetric yoga developed out of the unity-state, not the other way around.

(Later)

I think this almost-drugged-super-tired state I've been in is due to

1. coffee (not today)
   
2. poor sleep
   
3. stress
   
4. diet/mineral/vitamin deficiencies
   

Until I do the things to eliminate those factors, as well as eliminating salvia for a week or two, I won't really know.

financial crisis and my state of annoyance.

Still mildly frustrated that I didn't sell $4700 worth of options a couple of weeks ago (or at least $2000) but instead got distracted and failed to fill an order, stay out of the market til last week, and make back $10,000 to $50,000 this week by buying a couple dozen options on friday. I *knew* to, didn't I? Somewhere deep down? (I sure wanted to buy on Friday...) But always seem to do the opposite of what I know to do. Anyway, I haven't been very productive since about 1998, so I guess wiping myself out and putting myself $52,000 in debt and in a situation where I don't have rent is a perfect way to force myself to solve these problems. Maybe I'll become homeless in a few days, that might be an interesting experiment while I look for a $30/hr job or better... I'd rather pay my credit cards off faster without having rent to worry about. I shouldn't have to pay rent after putting $600,000 into other people and their property, anyway. 10 acres worth, in total... I guess I should be hiring a lawyer to go after some of that property. But I can't get back the $2 million it's cost me... I guess I should just build a better site than facebook and take over the social-networking world! Or, actually, something more original than that. I have many ideas. I guess I just have to start digging in and trying to implement some of them. Can I do so in time to save myself from a financial crisis? Not really, because I'm already in one.

So this is what having a few leaves this morning takes me to?

Just bring up the same stuff that's on my mind anyway... nothing new. But I'm ranting and raving and practically biting off the head of every contractor that tries to call me about a job opportunity, today. Not good...

no news

I haven't been writing new reports lately, because I don't have any new insights to report, or none that seemed particularly profound at the time.

This blog post mentions some of the same the same insights I have had (namely that physical reality is not "real", per se, as insane as that may sound), and overall is a far more interesting blog than I am likely to write anytime soon:

http://unchartedjourney.blogspot.com/2010/08/salvia-insights.html

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I wrote this as a reply to a poorly-written web page.
I hate to cite it because it's really not worth reading, but here it is:

lookthatuponline.com/2010/03/effective-way-of-using-salvia-divinorum-extract/

My reply is below:

Who writes stuff like this? Bad information is worse than no information at all; and this is very poor English and not accurate.

Salvia extract is typically smoked, though vaporization may work as well. Reports of success with vaporization are few; it's generally best to just get a very high strength extract such as 40x or better, and be careful to inhale *all* of the smoke (to conserve extract). Only do this with a sitter present! And be very conservative on your first dose! 1/20th of a gram of 20X extract, breathed in fully through a glass pipe, is generally enough to go quickly into the salvia-trance and lose touch with "normal" reality, as well as forgetting where you are and what you were just doing.

The chewed experience lasts longer and may be easier to understand and integrate. If you can find a good enough price on bulk leaves to feel comfortable chewing them, you might find the experience more interesting and educational. Salvia is a sort of personality-inhibitor. You may find that your body habits and ego-personality may suddenly seem to be gone, and you are left with a dissociated consciousness which is still in your body but seems to no longer be so tightly attached to the body; at least that is my experience. At high doses (of smoked extract), you may see swirling in the field of vision, and other visual effects. The eerie thing about it is that your brain seems to believe that what it is seeing is *real*, and can be nearly traumatized by the confusion. Perhaps this is a result of Salvia showing you something about the energetic nature of the structure of concensus-reality.

Be careful! Some people may become psychotic in this state (out of fear or panic?), at least temporarily.

Set and setting, and when not appropriate

Groups have some spoken, some written, and some unspoken rules. I learned a new rule today. That one is not to take nonprescription drugs during a singles-group event (or something like that; I haven't seen the actual rule.) It might seem obvious, but it wasn't that clear to me. I said I won't do it again. I probably shouldn't be blogging about it, but I wish I could again apologize to "Kari" that I'm not always that way, and (for that matter) that had I not lost $1.3 million this last decade I might not be doing this. Had I not found out that many humans are liars and cheats, again, I wouldn't have the need to try to look "behind the game" and figure out why humans are so insane, and play these games.

Maybe she'll understand, in a few lifetimes. But I mustn't expect people to understand right now. Our species is still growing up. Give it another few hundred years. If we have that much time...

Or maybe we'll all just raise our frequencies as we enter the "aquarian age" and suddenly realize who we truly are, and not be offended by such trivial things...

I guess I scared her. I tried to apologize. But it didn't seem to be working. Then, in frustration, I forgot to even pay her the $5 I agreed to pay for the rideshare...

This was a few weeks ago, when, while coming down from a hike up a mountain, near the bottom, I chewed a few leaves. Maybe up to about 10 (they were crumbled). It hit me near the bottom of the trail, and the only "insight" I was getting was one of shame, and the impression that this was a really bad idea.

Live and learn.

I'll grow out of my second-adolescence by, say, age 50, I figure.
I might like to become an enlightened master, but I guess it's not likely to happen this way. (By engaging in random, unplanned entheogenic/psychedelic experiences. Or even planned ones for that matter?)

again, breakthrough is a bad goal to have?

I guess I should get past my resentments and just enjoy the game of life. Not try to "break-through" to the "other side" or uncover the veil and see the reality behind the illusion (or Maya). But I'm not totally to the level of acceptance of the path yet (what path? I'm not quite sure...)... I still find entheogens fascinating.


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http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/563419-HPPD-Salvia-Warning

23-05-2011 02:05
To the OP:

It sounds like a salvia-induced existential crisis, not HPPD. It isn't a chemical "break" or physical one--it's going too far into the Salvia world, and being shown the things that humans are not (yet?) meant to see/know. This fucks with people's heads. A bit of salvia is like an injection of extremely concentrated wisdom... and some people cannot handle it. There is a REASON why the secrets of the universe are SECRETS.

Humans like to know everything--but as truth-seekers we need to respect that not all is meant to be known.

I personally have gained a lot of wholesome wisdom from Salvia. I do 5x, 10x. I do not "break through" or go off into other worlds. I allow Salvia to teach me about my own mind.

Let salvia teach you to be a good human, not show you the secrets of the universe for some kind of ego-based metaphysical conquest. It gets dangerous out there.

http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=61731

is breakthrough a bad thing to do?

Early "Matrix"-like impressions of the salvia divinorum trance made me feel like this is a "big secret", or maybe even that we "aren't supposed to know". This experiencer confirms that the beings she saw/felt/met on "the other side" (as I keep calling it, though that may not be accurate) do not want to talk to us or tell us what is "there", because we decided to come here, to be immersed in the "game" of life here on earth, and leaving the game, even temporarily on Salvia, may be inappropriate.

So, I don't know, maybe I should stop trying to break-through. Still, I want to make my first pure salvinorin extract, and proceed to make 100X so that I can try, anyway...

http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=40158

spine-loosening?

I seem to like cracking my neck sometimes. Maybe it's just a bad habit that comes out more when I have a hit of Salvia D., but I don't think so, because most habits of the body, personality and ego seem to drop away when in the Salviaic-trance. Muscle tension does not necessarily leave in a mild dissociative trip induced by a kappa-opioid receptor agonist (Salvinorin-A), but it becomes easy to actively release most body tension just by lying down and letting-go. However, the neck and spine tension in the body seems to remain. So I sometimes think "if I could just loosen up these vertebrae, the person who normally inhabits this body might have a better time living in it." (It's sort-of a subtle joke about the dissociated state to think of myself as a different person when under the influence of Salvia. But since most aspects of the personality temporarily seem to be "gone", including all the resentments that may cycle through my head much of the time, it feels literally true, in a way.) Anyway, it may or may not be a profound realization, but I feel convinced that spinal-loosening exercises (yoga, perhaps?) can improve the whole body's functioning. After all, the nervous-system branches out from the spine, and if the spine is sending pain signals due to tightness in some areas, that must tend to negatively impact the consciousness of the person inhabiting the organism (the body.) Now, I do notice, many constant discomforts become suppressed, then awareness returns to them in the Salviaic state. That's probably why it occurs to me to loosen up my neck and upper-back spinal area when in that state.

This has some good exercises:
http://books.google.com/books?id=1kJiDxQ18BgC&pg=PA130&lpg=PA130&dq=spine+loosen&source=bl&ots=h4VAQSsVoQ&sig=T7Xri-XKwixzeJYNZ7WIIpxEoCU&hl=en&ei=RINATqfnPOPgiALQh-nJBQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBYQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=spine%20loosen&f=false

more past Salvia insights / Kymatica

In the film Kymatica ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AanQ2mY2jjc ), at 00:06:49, the narrator says "the Earth's resonant frequencies are a result of its form." This reminded me of a couple of mild experiences with chewed Salvia D. leaves in a club-dance situation where I saw that 'it' was all about frequencies and resonance. 'It' being, the dance partly, but moreover relationships aren't about the age of the individuals, but about the resonance between their frequencies. Which isn't to say I should be chasing after girls half my age, necessarily... but whether older or younger, it doesn't necessarily matter. I guess I've had a hangup about age differences for some time... and this seemed to be a somewhat profound realization at the time, even if right now it may not seem so significant.

Another frequency-related insight was that the brain (and body) are a transceiver interfacing the consciousness (from the "soul" or "higher-self"?) to this consensus-reality, or the "Maya" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_(illusion) ), and that the brain of a person with Asperger's Syndrome is simply tuned to a different frequency. It may be an oversimplification, but I think there's some accuracy to the analogy.

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Does smoking Salvia D. annoy the goddess of the Maya? Hah... silly question? But I ask because Salvia tells the experiencer, seemingly rather directly, that the outside world is an illusion. Perhaps Salvia is "lying"? (I don't really think so, exactly, but clearly the higher doses that lead to hallucinatory experiences are confusing, because clearly the "swirling" I saw couldn't have been "real", from the perspective of consensus-reality-consciousness. But maybe it had a reality unto itself?) Certainly it's a confusing state of mind. But I find it interesting how closely it corresponds to the sanskrit concept of "maya" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M​aya_(illusion) "Essentially, Mahamaya (great Maya) both blinds us in delusion (moha) and has the power to free us from it."